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“The way you work sometimes just sets the stage for how you expect everybody else to work—even if you never say it out loud.”
— Leah Jolly
In this episode, we basically hold up a mirror to our work lives and go, “Oh… THAT’S why we’re tired.” Fresh off a chat with Laura Suttin, MD, MBA, PCC , we unpack the wild idea that maybe sprinting through our careers like we’re being chased by a bear isn’t the healthiest strategy. Turns out, pausing, breathing, and occasionally acting like humans instead of productivity robots might actually help.
We dive into team culture and realize—surprise!—your vibe as a leader is contagious. If you’re running around stressed and skipping lunch, your team’s not exactly going to be sipping tea and setting boundaries. We compare the classic “rise and grind” mentality with a more radical approach: not burning everyone out.
Of course, we get real about burnout—what it looks like, how it sneaks up on you, and how it’s basically your brain waving a tiny white flag saying, “Please stop.” We talk about actually listening to those signals instead of powering through like it’s a personality trait.
Listen now to discover:
- Team Culture: Are we thriving or just tired? (1:25)
- Why self-care is not optional (4:56)
- The “CEO energy” we thought we have vs reality (8:00)
- Subtle clues that you might be heading toward burnout (12:44)
“ Don’t work so much to satisfy some future version of yourself that you may or may not even be.”
— Annie Frisbie
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- Connect with Dr Suttin: https://www.drlaurasuttin.com/
- The Self-Compassion Institute: https://self-compassion.org/
- The Purposeful MD by Laura Suttin: https://bookshop.org/a/110134/9798987370452
- Fierce Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff: https://bookshop.org/a/110134/9780062991058
- Drive by Daniel Pink: https://bookshop.org/a/110134/9781594484803
Highlights:
1:25 – Team culture and burnout prevention
4:56 – Leadership and self-care
8:00 – The CEO mentality
11:50 – Insights from Dr. Sutton
12:44 – Recognizing burnout signs
14:50 – A look at next month’s Deeper Dive
About Us
Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas. Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City, and the creator of Paperless Lactation.
The Lactation Business Coaching podcast is produced by us and edited by Jillian Grover, who also writes our show notes. Our theme song is by Silas Wade.
